Pong Messiah Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This is hilarious: Put another way: Clinton is now nearly as unpopular with men as Donald Trump is with women. That’s saying something. [...] Meanwhile, she’s not performing at nearly a strong-enough level with women to counteract the problem. Only 49 percent of women viewed her favorably in the poll, with 47 percent holding negative views. For all the self-inflicted problems that Republicans have in reaching out to a diversifying country, Hillary Clinton’s favorability with white men is worse than Jeb Bush’s with Hispanics, Ben Carson’s with African-Americans, and Carly Fiorina’s with women in the same survey.What's weird is that women don't like Trump or Fiorina because those candidates are clearly sexist; Hispanics and African-Americans don't like Jeb or Ben Carson respectively because those candidates are clearly racist. But it's inverted with Hillary: white men don't like her cause they're sexist. Funny how that works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Pong! What if she doesn't make the cut? OMG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 She should try showing some more skin. It worked for Obama. http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k298/brando1138/Nightly/President-Obama_zpsilj8lqcc.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Negative - nugatory - nadda - nope Hillary does not need to show more skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Pong! What if she doesn't make the cut? OMG!It doesn't seem possible; it has been awhile since I've checked, but last time I looked Sanders and the dumb guy had like 5% support from minority voters, which is kinda important. Also gotta wonder whether Sanders being forced to come out of the closet and admit he's not a gun grabber is going to hurt him among progressives, or whether he's strong enough on other issues for that to be overlooked? Anything can happen, though. I distinctly remember people saying Obama had zero chance against Hillary Clinton, and that worked out pretty well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 So the only people who vote Republican are either racist or sexist? Even if we're talking about black voters not voting for a black candidate? I guess that somehow makes females who don't vote for Hillary sexist as well. Great logic there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 So the only people who vote Republican are either racist or sexist? Or just plain ignorant. There is no other logical explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kurgan Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Perhaps she should seek the endorsement of NO MA'AM, or something like that. Hang out with them and watch a football game, or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Didn't she try throwing back shots with rednecks at a campaign stop after Obama took the lead in the 2008 primaries? How'd that work out for her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Maybe she should just try being herself. Oh wait. She's a horrible human being. Maybe she should pretend to be something she's not. Oh wait. Nobody believes her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Tex, they can corporate vote! What is good for my big business should be helped along by voting for GOP . I worked for an Indian - he came from India - who asked in such a way you felt you had to vote Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Maybe it was just the fact that he's both male and Indian and you were being racist and sexist about the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Or just poor Engrish. He owned the Taco Bell I managed. When he was in India he ran one of their nuclear reactors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hang on a sec. Are you telling me that it's OK to disagree with someone who isn't your gender or race without being racist, sexist, or ignorant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 What do I know? I just made tacos. Not quite sammiches but you know women and kitchens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 So the only people who vote Republican are either racist or sexist? Well, that does kinda cover 85% of your posts... So the only people who vote Republican are either racist or sexist? Or just plain ignorant. There is no other logical explanation. There's the other 15%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I still have yet to see a single criticism of Hilary round these parts, or my facebook feed, that is based on her policy or politics. It's always one of three things: 1. She's a bad person! (Because she doesn't seem friendly?)2. She's shifty! (cause she did something any politician would do?)3. I just don't think she's likable! (cause she has resting bitch face?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 She's got a lot of genuine baggage that goes beyond the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy or having a vajayjay. One thing a lot of folks on the far left have a problem with is that she started out about as far right as you can get (volunteering for the Goldwater campaign lol), and while she has obviously drifted left on policy, she still "thinks and talks like a conservative" in a lot of ways. I have no freaking idea what this means, but I suspect it has to do with her occasional judgmental language on morals issues, while holding a more nuanced (or triangulating, if you are cynical) view of economic issues than many of her colleagues. She's not really one of us. This may or may not be true -- in the 1990s, she was portrayed as being far, far more to the left than she probably was, and her years of centrist overcompensation have left whatever her true feelings may be hazy to me and no doubt others. On a more tangible level, she was an advocate for the Iraq war, is a lot more hawkish than many Democrats, and (worst of all) has ties to *gasp* big banks and doesn't go on anti-capitalist screeds. She's definitely not a socialist -- the monster was not pushing for a federal $15 minimum wage last I checked -- and people view her talk on income inequality as lip service as best (she's much more effective talking policy over populism). So I dunno who your friends are, but among "leftish" people I know who dislike her, it's definitely in regards to economic policy (first), and foreign policy (second) -- yes, she's called a sellout and shifty, but it's in the context of economic ties/policy or personal scandal (see below); it has nothing to do with resting bitch face as far as I've seen. Oddly enough, the whole "dynasty" angle, where I expected a lot of pushback, is rarely brought up. Of course people on the right are going to hate her for the same reason people on the left will hate whoever the Republicans nominate, so we don't need to go into that. I don't have the time or interest to touch on every legit reason to straight up dislike/distrust HRC on a personal, rather than policy level; instead, I'll point to Chalups as the person around here who has the best laundry list in his head and the ability to lay out her scandals and general weaselness in a comprehensive and fair manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest El Chalupacabra Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 This is hilarious: Put another way: Clinton is now nearly as unpopular with men as Donald Trump is with women. That’s saying something. [...] Meanwhile, she’s not performing at nearly a strong-enough level with women to counteract the problem. Only 49 percent of women viewed her favorably in the poll, with 47 percent holding negative views. For all the self-inflicted problems that Republicans have in reaching out to a diversifying country, Hillary Clinton’s favorability with white men is worse than Jeb Bush’s with Hispanics, Ben Carson’s with African-Americans, and Carly Fiorina’s with women in the same survey.What's weird is that women don't like Trump or Fiorina because those candidates are clearly sexist; Hispanics and African-Americans don't like Jeb or Ben Carson respectively because those candidates are clearly racist. But it's inverted with Hillary: white men don't like her cause they're sexist. Funny how that works! Well, someone needs to be blamed if Hillary doesn't become president, because up until she stepped all over her tail with Bengazi and the email scandal, the election was supposed to just be a formality for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 So I dunno who your friends areLoonies. MG is in my feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Pro-abortion, pro-war, pro-bank. Lies for no good reason (sniper fire? Brian Williams at least got flack for his lies, but for Hillary it shouldn't be held against her?) She's running on an impressive resume, but doesn't really have much going for her if you look beyond titles. Her time as Secretary of State wasn't really that successful and was basically just a consolation prize. Combine that with an FBI investigation, and she's toxic. Most likely that's all meaningless to you, but it's not the same as whether or not I would have a beer with her. I would go out of my way to avoid contact with any presidential candidate, so it isn't anything to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It's not ALL meaning less. I appreciate legit reasons to not vote for her. I just don't see them frequently on social media and I'd hate for people to not vote for her cause she looks like a mean ol lady. Just like I didn't want people to vote for W cause he'd be fun to have a beer with. I'm still an undecided voter. Much as I despise him, I kinda want Trump to go the distance. Bernie Sanders too. I'd love to have the GOP and DEM candidates up against both a liberal leaning and a conservative leaning indy to shake things up. The two party system, and the polarization of every issue is killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 So the only people who vote Republican are either racist or sexist? Even if we're talking about black voters not voting for a black candidate? I guess that somehow makes females who don't vote for Hillary sexist as well. Great logic there.Yes--the current fashion of Left-directed brow beating of black voters is as follows: if you do not treat a black Republican as Satan, then you are: 1. Ignorant. 2. A self hating Uncle Tom seeking a pat on the head and grinning photo-ops with Dick Cheney & Wanye LaPierre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Spam Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I just heard the most bizarre thing today. Someone said that Hillary is a man in drag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 So the only people who vote Republican are either racist or sexist? Even if we're talking about black voters not voting for a black candidate? I guess that somehow makes females who don't vote for Hillary sexist as well.Great logic there. Yes--the current fashion of Left-directed brow beating of black voters is as follows: if you do not treat a black Republican as Satan, then you are: 1. Ignorant. 2. A self hating Uncle Tom seeking a pat on the head and grinning photo-ops with Dick Cheney & Wanye LaPierre.That's pretty much it. If you disagree with a staunch liberal that, apparently, means you just hate everything. You hate blacks, you hate women, you hate gays, you hate the color purple, whatever. You're a (pick it) with anger on top. It's all such bullshit. Muslim kid walks into a school with a briefcase, claims it's a clock, knows it's gonna start ticking when nobody can see what's inside, knowing fully well he's gonna get the attention he craves, gets busted for being a troublemaker, and then is somehow rewarded for being a pathetic smartass kid. As for Hillary, her past speaks volumes. We've all heard it. If you haven't you're not paying attention. The internet works, btw, look into it. I can only assume that anyone who still supports her either does so out of pure spite or is a complete dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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