Pong Messiah Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm pretty familiar with all this stuff, so it's not revelatory to me. Just posting it in the hopes it makes people angry: The ‘Wage Gap’ Myth That Won’t Die Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If I were angry before reading this article (for an unrelated reason) do I still count in the "making people angry" tally? Or is my anger meaningless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 I want you to be angry because you read an article that refutes the notion of a "wage gap," pavonis. You can still be angry about other things, of course. In fact, I encourage it. But in this context,if your anger is only meaningful if it grew because you read those words. Sorry bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What if I'm angry because you posted it, and everything you do makes me angry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 While intensely, almost erotically gratifying, it does not fit the criteria for meaningful anger in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 While intensely, almost erotically gratifying, it does not fit the criteria for meaningful anger in this context.Maybe my favorite sentence ever typed on Nightly? I have never worked anywhere where a wage gap existed (environmental, wildlife), and I'm not sure what industry could get away with it nowadays anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerina Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Companies must now ensure that every penny of wage differential between the men and women they employ is attributable to bona-fide differences in education, training, experience, quantity or quality of work, and so on. That must suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Okay. Well, I'm annoyed by the Band-aid feel-good repair that doesn't address anything meaningful. My wife quit work because she wanted to stay home, but I know plenty of parents who quit or reduced hours because of the expense of childcare or, in lower incomes, because working 40 hours keeps them from getting assistance but 37 hours is fine. When that assistance is tens of thousands of dollars a year (Medicaid, SNAP) that can be a big deal. Not sure if Obamacare has improved that, because i don't currently know anyone in those situations, but it is rough and the band-aid doesn't fix it or even attempt to do anything. It's feel-good liberalism, not intentional, directed policy. And when you're looking at quantifying performance, you can basically make up whatever results you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pong Messiah Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 Companies must now ensure that every penny of wage differential between the men and women they employ is attributable to bona-fide differences in education, training, experience, quantity or quality of work, and so on.That must suck.That better be anger I'm smelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good God a Bear Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 This article pisses me off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Companies must now ensure that every penny of wage differential between the men and women they employ is attributable to bona-fide differences in education, training, experience, quantity or quality of work, and so on. That must suck.It takes more work to make up stats to prove that what you're already doing is okay, without actually doing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANA-kin Skywalker Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Companies must now ensure that every penny of wage differential between the men and women they employ is attributable to bona-fide differences in education, training, experience, quantity or quality of work, and so on. That must suck.Sure does. I purposefully hire women to save money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Skywalker Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I have never worked anywhere where a wage gap existed (environmental, wildlife), and I'm not sure what industry could get away with it nowadays anyhow. It does, you just haven't noticed because you're on the other side of it. I knew I got crappy pay, and finally got another manager who noticed it and brought me up to where I should have been. He had to give me 2 years of crazy raises to do it. Next year after he left, boom, back to crap raises. What's actually more pervasive is women or men who are actually involved in their family's lives are placed on the "mommy track". Passed up for promotions, not given opportunities, because corporate America really wants their entire employee base to be single men and women who have nothing better to do than be at work. Family and outside lives are an incovnience. As one of my friends put it, "Leaving early to go to golf? Ok. Leaving at 5 because you need to pick kids up from the daycare? Not there for your team." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Well, a lot of the my jobs have standardized salaries. Everyone gets paid the same because it's government work. I can relate to the mommy track a little bit. I've always been expected to work hours that are incompatible with daycare. It's apparently crazy that a father would take his kids to and from daycare. When I've brought it up, I can see the old schools guys kind of scoff at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Skywalker Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Government salaries are like that for a reason. Cuts down on the bitching, for the most part. What shifts are you looking for? Those guys might be scoffing because they either think you should be there for your kids, or because they figure your wife will be pissed if you get home after she gets them to bed by herself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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