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You can't deny him. He's there. He's the ultimate asshole, and he'll never win.

 

But....

 

You know he's right, right? Even under the thousand sheets of liberal white gulit you all (y'all?) sleep under you can see it, but you don't dare speak it.

 

Why not?

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The left is currently circle-jerking about Trump--somehow thinking he's going to hurt the GOP though his statements, or if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. They love to attack his statments on the border / illegal aliens, but not once do you ever hear any of this group admit the one unavoidable fact: that illigals are breaking the law to enter the country,

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The left is currently circle-jerking about Trump--somehow thinking he's going to hurt the GOP though his statements, or if he runs as a 3rd party candidate. They love to attack his statments on the border / illegal aliens, but not once do you ever hear any of this group admit the one unavoidable fact: that illigals are breaking the law to enter the country,

Why does anyone have to admit this? It's pretty obvious. But many liberals see this as serious as jaywalking in terms of it being illegal.

 

Tex, what do you think Trump is right about?

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Trump is right about immgration. It's not about giving these people a better place to live, it's about votes. These people will only drag this country down. We won, they lost, and that's the way it should remain.

 

The libbies that cater to them don't give a shit about the long term. They just want to stay in power. They are totally content knowing that after they are dead these people will be a major pain in in the ass for future generations. In the meantime, of course, they get to live like kings.

 

They don't give a shit about you. They only want to exploit you. They want to play on your sympathies to get your vote, and Trump totally called them out on this steaming pill of bullshit.

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I'm really enjoying this. I mean it's like they brought wrasslin' to a presidential election cycle. Trump is a heel poking that Republican hornets nest wearing horrible joke hats and making far from truthful statements. He's embraced his true being and by embracing that he's garnered enough people to actually put him in contention. Meanwhile I don't even know who the face guy is in the GOP. Not McCain because he's too old but maybe Walker? It's been so great for Hillary because hardly anything has made it into mainstream media feeds about the newest EMAIL-GATE thing from when she was Sec. State.

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Yeah pretty much that. It's more of a reality TV thing, but it still works. It really has come to this, hasn't it? People give more of a shit about Trump than they do about America. And given the other candidates you can totally see why.

 

People bitch about reality TV, but truth be told they're better than sitcoms.

 

People bitch about remakes/reboots but imagine how many talentless dickwads would starve without them?

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The thing that annoys me about Trump is that while he is (at times) correct in pointing out the hypocrisy of many politicians on both sides, I am not convinced he is even serious about running for office. So much of what he says is aimed more at the ultra far right, or simply to stir the sh*t pot, that I just can't take him seriously as a candidate. I mean even as crazy as Ross Perot was, he at least came off as actually serious about running for office. Trump just seems like he is in the race to amuse himself, with both throwing a monkey wrench into the race, and what seems to be a private joke to himself on how idiotic the American voters are (which he may actually be right about, which is even more sad).

 

Seriously, I am no GOP fan, but I can't stand Hillary Clinton, and if there were a centrist and rational GOP candidate, I would vote for them, instead. It's true that there is a good chance Clinton will be elected, even without Trump in the race because the GOP really doesn't have anyone that can beat her, but Trump seems content to utterly destroy the GOP for this election cycle. He is not helping things. I have no love for the GOP, and I am a registered independent, but by acting like the crazy far right candidate, Trump is causing the other GOPers, like Rick Perry, to double down on their own crazy stances, and this seems to be marginalizing the ability for more centrist GOP candidates from even emerging as contenders. That is the problem I have with him.

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I heard today that someone said that if Trump gets elected we will never have a president quite like him. But I think he could be an Andrew Jackson.

No, because Andrew Jackson wasn't a draft dodger.

 

If Trump were to actually be serious for 5 minutes, I think he would make a great Secretary of Treasury or Chairman of the Federal Reserve, but I don't think he would be a good president.

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HA!

 

Brando, I'm partially joking but yeah...heh.

 

Chalupa: He'd be terrible in those positions but not any worse than some previous ones. He's 265 million in debt and four of his businesses have declared bankruptcy. The latest one is a casino in Atlantic City.

 

As for Jackson he had loud lavicious parties. But definitely not a dodger.

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If Trump were to actually be serious for 5 minutes, I think he would make a great Secretary of Treasury or Chairman of the Federal Reserve, but I don't think he would be a good president.

Are you serious? He's done an amazing job of landing on his feet over the years, but I'd never trust him in a financial position. The unpredictability and bad judgment he'd likely display would straight up scare me. It'd be like putting Captain Kirk in charge of monitoring the virginity of Orion Slave Girls.

 

That said, Trump would be a super entertaining president, because he is primarily an entertainer at this point in his life.

 

Of course that doesn't mean I think he'd be anything but an extraordinarily bad president, but I'm sure he'd be fun to watch.

 

Hey everybody, some guy has an opinion on Trump:

I agree Trump is ridiculous — but he is an illustration of a problem and not its cause. Trump is not the swamp: he is the creature emerging from it. For however ridiculous and appalling his candidacy may be, it is no worse and no more ridiculous and appalling than the whole pattern of American politics at this time.

In a nutshell, the author asks if Trump is really that much worse and/or less serious than:

  • A third Bush term or second Clinton term
  • "You can keep your doctor" Obama
  • "It's my server" Clinton
  • Having to apologize for saying things like "all lives matter" or appealing to universalism
  • Trigger warnings
  • Claims that colleges are hotbeds of rape or "rape culture"
  • Emma Sulkowitz's mattress

Oh snap. Maybe Trump is the candidate we deserve.

 

:eek:

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Chalupa: He'd be terrible in those positions but not any worse than some previous ones. He's 265 million in debt and four of his businesses have declared bankruptcy. The latest one is a casino in Atlantic City.

 

 

If Trump were to actually be serious for 5 minutes, I think he would make a great Secretary of Treasury or Chairman of the Federal Reserve, but I don't think he would be a good president.

Are you serious? He's done an amazing job of landing on his feet over the years, but I'd never trust him in a financial position. The unpredictability and bad judgment he'd likely display would straight up scare me. It'd be like putting Captain Kirk in charge of monitoring the virginity of Orion Slave Girls.

 

That said, Trump would be a super entertaining president, because he is primarily an entertainer at this point in his life.

 

Of course that doesn't mean I think he'd be anything but an extraordinarily bad president, but I'm sure he'd be fun to watch.

 

 

Well when you put it that way, maybe you are right. I was speaking from him coming from a financial background, but you both are probably right. He would probably manipulate the market to his gain, and the country be damned.

 

Which if you don't trust him in those positions, you definitely don't want him as president. A Trump administration would be an absolute freak show. If you want to be entertained by Trump, stick to reality TV.

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Trump is right about immgration. It's not about giving these people a better place to live, it's about votes. These people will only drag this country down. We won, they lost, and that's the way it should remain.

 

The libbies that cater to them don't give a **** about the long term. They just want to stay in power. They are totally content knowing that after they are dead these people will be a major pain in in the ass for future generations. In the meantime, of course, they get to live like kings.

 

They don't give a **** about you. They only want to exploit you. They want to play on your sympathies to get your vote, and Trump totally called them out on this steaming pill of bull****.

Right about immigration? In that Mexico is sending people here? That they're all rapists?

What are "libbies"? If you mean liberals, that's a lie because I'm a liberal and I do care about people and immigration.

Are you just doing the ignorant old-man rant for attention?

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eh. I would hardly consider the liberals to be in power. That's what so funny about all this rabid Tea Party talk where they feel attacked by the liberals and their sense of direction. Congress can't seem to pass a bill by a large margin nor is anything ever committed by them in a "full force". Even legal gay marriage only won by one vote in SCOTUS.

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In power or not, you can't deny that they have an ulterior motive when it comes to immigration. By sucking up to these people they're buying votes, and that's all they really care about.

 

Not that Republicans are much better, of course, but this is such an obvious example of politicians putting their own interests ahead of those of the American people that a guy like Trump can actually take a stab at the White House for simply acknowledging the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

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The demographics of the US are shifting, and Hispanics are going to be a powerful voting bloc in the future. Planning ahead for the inevitable is smarter than whining about it now. If the Republicans can't face a US where most citizens (and non-citizens, whether legal or not) are not white, then they're not going to win much in the future.

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In power or not, you can't deny that they have an ulterior motive when it comes to immigration. By sucking up to these people they're buying votes, and that's all they really care about.

 

Not that Republicans are much better, of course, but this is such an obvious example of politicians putting their own interests ahead of those of the American people that a guy like Trump can actually take a stab at the White House for simply acknowledging the 800 lb gorilla in the room.

 

Trying to win votes by appealing to large populations that feel disenfranchised is nothing new and every politician has done this since the beginning of time. You win by getting votes. You'd be stupid NOT to, so I don't know why you say that like you've uncovered some nefarious truth. I don't believe votes is ALL the Democrats care about, though. I don't even believe that of the GOP. You're talking about standard election tactics.

 

And I think Trump is resonating with some people simply because he's an angry white man who feels put upon because he's being asked to grow up and be tolerant. There are a lot of old, angry white men who feel this way right now. Society is becoming more tolerant of 'others', laws meant to keep us socially in the 50s are changing, cripes, even dope is legal! They're PISSED OFF and they want the world back the way it was when they could tell dirty jokes at work without having a meeting with HR. Trumps is as old and crass as they are and he's ranting the way they do in their La z Boys.

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