The Choc Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 In the official marketing release for Battlefront it says that players can experience the pivotal victory The New Republic had in the battle of Jaaku. This is pretty interesting in that the 2 factions seemingly fighting in The Force Awakens are The First Order and The Resistance, without a mention of the New Republic. Seems like a New Republic was formed but somewhere over the course of 30 years it fell apart or possibly still exists but is essentially powerless? Perhaps "The First Order" is a specific wing of the New Republic military that has grown to immense power? The Resistance could be a very small faction fighting The First Order? Maybe the New Republic exists and there are people in that government who take one side or the other in the conflict? I really don't know, just found it interesting (and almost certainly not an oversight) that "The New Republic" is used in the description of Battlefront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'm glad someone posted about this. I saw Mara tweet about it but I was on mobile and busy so didn't post anywhere. Definitely worth taking note of I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryn Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I have yet to still get through the Awakens exhibit, but I'm wondering if this film takes place in an area of contention. The New Republic may exist elsewhere in its galaxy but we're seeing an adventure somewhere where the First Order has a foothold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 And I'll defer to my old stand by-- silly things in print not seen in the movie aren't going to be explained. I bet more than anything this is bad copywriting by somebody who doesn't know the product and it slipped through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Jade Skywalker Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Pre Story Group, I'd agree with you. Now, they are really really really vigilant about what is said in public. If the Battlefront press stuff says "New Republic," I believe it. That said, my theory is that the New Republic existed for awhile, then fell and now there's the First Order and the Resistance. OR that the First Order forms out of what was called the Imperial Remnant in the EU and the Resistance is the Rebellion in that region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Maybe. But in no way is somebody in the movie going to stand up and explain that. You got the crawl, thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 No one is going to monologue about it, but 30 years have passed, we're going to get some back story along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavonis Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'm sure we can assemble the backstory from hints and details given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Im not expecting or wanting some long winded explanation. But think about it, the names "Empire" and "Rebels" are pretty iconic. You have one side that has tie fighters, star destroyers, storm troopers and looks exactly like the Empire. You have another side with X-Wings and pilots in orange jumpsuits that look exactly like the Rebels. Yet they changed the names of the opposing sides. You'd think there would have to be a reason for it, right? And you'd think there would have to be some sort of explanation as to why what looks like the Empire is now called The First Order, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odine Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 sure but that could be explained in one line of dialogue or one line of the opening crawl. Its not that big a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I think that's all anyone is expecting. Just *something* that addresses how we got from Empire/Rebel Alliance to First Order/Resistance. Not expecting a history lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 First Order is the part of the galaxy where the empire stayed in power but took a new name. New Republic is where the Alliance restored the senate. The resistance are the Republic supported people fighting for freedom in the First Order's region of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Hmm. The New Republic existed for a while and then fell apart. I swear I've seen this somewhere before . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 First Order is the part of the galaxy where the empire stayed in power but took a new name. New Republic is where the Alliance restored the senate. The resistance are the Republic supported people fighting for freedom in the First Order's region of spaceI like this, I could see maybe the "First Order" and New Republic fought for a while. Then most of The New Republic got tired of the war and came to some kind of agreement with the First Order. But there were some who couldn't abide by any Imperial control so they started a Resistance inside First Order controlled territory. And that could basically all be explained in the Opening Crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 First Order is the part of the galaxy where the empire stayed in power but took a new name. New Republic is where the Alliance restored the senate. The resistance are the Republic supported people fighting for freedom in the First Order's region of space[citation needed] But really, this is my thought too. I've read some stuff about a potential Cold War type standoff being the political environment in TFA as well. If it's as simple as this (and as Driver has pointed out, it almost assuredly is because you don't want to "waste" time on something that isn't paramount to the plot), it's summed up succinctly in a few lines. Something in the crawl, a couple pieces of dialogue throughout the 2 hour movie. Plenty to piece it together without either being too overt or hitting you over the head with it. The only point being made was, it's doubtful we'd be dropped totally in media res without some type of "Yo, here's what's up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 I kinda like the idea of Leia having a prominent role in The New Republic and maybe being secretly involved in the Resistance. Ya know like publicly decrying the Resistance for risking the peace while behind the scenes helping them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 That's basically her position pre-ANH... an Imperial Senator that secretly supports the Rebellion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 That's true now that I think of it, good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerimar Nyliram Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Honestly, the citizens of the galaxy should come to realize that government doesn't work and go ancap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Would anybody be shocked if they did away with the opening crawl? We're assuming it will be there but maybe anything goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Choc Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 Yes, I'd be shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas1138 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I was just thinking about that earlier when it first got brought up. On one hand, it's the opening crawl. That's as much a fabric of Star Wars as jedi and death stars and x-wings. On the other hand, this is "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" not "Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens" right? Back to the first hand, JJ et al are fans too. They're plugged in with "us." They know there would be riots (then everyone would buy their tickets anyway, but still, there'd be riots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowDog Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Your middle point is why I think its possible. Not likely but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Krawlie Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere they confirmed that episode 7 will be in the crawl, they're just not including it in the official title, like ESB and ROTJ. Pretty sure we talked about it here, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 It was episode 7 in filming and in the crawl, they just aren't including it in the title for marketing like the PT did. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Anthology films did away with the crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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